Obama and the democrats are using every illegal, unconstitutional trick in the book to force the farce of obamacare on America. House Rules Chairwoman Louise Slaughter is changing a rule in the house to consider the Senate bill passed once the House approves a corrections bill that would make changes to the Senate version.
While members await a final package and a CBO score, Senate Majority Whip Durbin said Democrats have asked Senate Parliamentarian Alan Frumin for information on how reconciliation can be used "with our goals" and what "the basic rules are."
"Reconciliation" or the nuclear option has been used to pass budget bills but it would be illegal and unconstitutional to use this option to pass obamacare in the senate. Obamacare is not a "budget" bill. The democrates know this. If they try to pass obamacare with 51 votes it will be an ILLEGAL UNCONSTITUTIONAL bill.
Americans should FOCUS on the fact obama is not a legal US citizen. They should FOCUS on the fact the DNC has concealed obama's true identity. Obama and the DNC have concealed the fact he is NOT a natural born citizen at birth and therfore should have never been on the DNC ballot. Criminal fraud has allowed an imposter to be elected as president.
Obama should be removed from office. Nancy pelosi chairman of the dnc convention should be indicted by a grand jury and removed from office. The dnc certified obama as eligible under the US Constitution. He was not. The dnc will not release information about how obama was certified by their convention. This is because obama is not a natural born citizen. The dnc has ignored the US Constitution. The dnc continues to coverup this fact.
Obama has stated he was a dual citizen at birth. A kenyan citizen and US citizen. A dual citizen at birth is NOT a natural born citizen.
Dnc coverup evidence
49 States accepted the DNC lie and Hawaii needed something extra added
Obama certification of live birth was forged in addition to the fact nothing on it can be verified by the US public
Because obama is a FRAUD who cannot produce a "birth certificate" that can be verified it does not suprise me he would use FRADULENT methods to force his communist agenda on America through "obamcare". The obamacare bill is not about healthcare it is about controlling Americans and stripping their Constitutional freedoms away through illegal legislation. Story Reports
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Democrates are trying to pass Obamacare by illegal rules changes
House Dems Try to Pass Obamacare Without a Vote
House Democrats, led by House Rules Chairman Louise Slaughter (D-NY) are attemping an end-run around one of the most basic Constitutional principles taught in Junior High Civics - the mechanism by which a bill becomes law.
Slaughter Preps Rule To Avoid Direct Vote On Senate Bill.
Anna Edney
House Rules Chairwoman Louise Slaughter is prepping to help usher the healthcare overhaul through the House and potentially avoid a direct vote on the Senate overhaul bill, the chairwoman said Tuesday. Slaughter is weighing preparing a rule that would consider the Senate bill passed once the House approves a corrections bill that would make changes to the Senate version.
Obama and the liberal democrates will use parliamentary and rules changes to force communisim on America. Make no mistake obamacare is a communist's dream come true.
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Leon H. Wolf
Having determined that they lack the votes in the House to pass the Senate bills as-is, House Democrats are attempting one of the most breathtakingly unconstitutional power grabs ever witnessed - a maneuver to deem the Senate bill ALREADY PASSED by the House by rule, despite the fact that it clearly has not. Now, as we have constantly reminded our ahistorical liberal friends who have already forgotten all of 2002-2006, the filibuster is constitutional because it is a Senate rule of debate, which is expressly authorized by Article I’s delegation of power to each house of Congress to set its own rules of debate. Apparently, some Democrats can’t seem to tell the difference between a rule of debate and just declaring by rule that the House has passed a bill that they have not, when the Constitution itself expressly states that “in all [] Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays[.]” What Slaughter and Pelosi here are attempting here is a blatant violation of the principles of bicameralism and presentment.
And unlike other Unconstitutional things Congress does, there’s caselaw here suggesting pretty clearly that when Congress attempts to pass a law in the absence of proper bicameralism and presentment, a person negatively affected by Congress’s action (e.g., a person required to pay a fine for not having health insurance) has standing to challenge the law’s validity in the Courts.
This farce is illegal and unconstitutional on its face, and someone has to be advising the Democrats in the House of this fact. They already know the American people don’t want this bill. They know by now that what they’re trying to do is illegal. The question now is whether they still have the shame to care about either.
(Obama knows what he and the democrates are trying to do is ILLEGAL but because obama is an "illegal alien" with no valid proof he is a US citizen, his "birth certificate" has never been release to the public so it could be verified as valid, he has nothing to loose.) Story Reports
Obama is a total fraud and has no valid proof he is a US citizen What obama has presented as proof cannot be verified by the public. Obama will not release information on the hospital where he was born, doctors name and signature at birth, registrar's signature or parents signatures on his original longform birth certificate.
Any statements from Hawaii have not been validated by the American people. Until American's can verify obama is a US citizen he can presumed to be a FRAUD.
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The follwing is an answer to someone who insists "birthers" as obama calls anyone who questions his citizenship:
"The Certification of Live Birth is accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department and the branches of the military."
The issue is not if the colb is accepted as proof of birth in the USA or military.
In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fourth kind of birth certificate for children born outside of the Territory or State of Hawaii. HRS Chapter 338 was amended to add a new section authorizing the Director of the Department of Health to issue a birth certificate for a person NOT born in Hawaii either as a Territory or State, upon sufficient proof that the legal parents of such individual had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth of such child.
( This means obama could have been born in Kenya or anywhere else)
This also is possible scenario for obama. Obama could have requested a certificate of live birth HIMSELF years later. Any ADULT could have requested a colb also. It just says ADULT. It doesn't say relative. So Hillary Clinton or ANY adult could have requested and been issued a colb for obama if the Lieutenant Governor of Hawaii was satisfied.
If a child born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person) if the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year. (See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).
Any ADULT could, upon testimony, file a "Delayed Certificate", of which an endorsement, item (23) would be required on the LONG-FORM CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH which obama rufuses to produce. A summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the ACCCEPTANCE for delayed filing. This EVIDENCE must be kept in a SPECIAL PERMANENT FILE. Also a judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence must determine if the evidence is valid. Who if anyone reviewd obama's evidence? Who determined it was valid if he or someone filed for a 'delayed certificate'?
In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or mid wife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, an adult could, upon testimony, file a “Delayed Certificate”, which required endorsement on the Delayed Certificate of a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing, which evidence must be kept in a special permanent file. The statute provided that the probative value of the Delayed Certificate must be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence. (See Section 57-18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).
Name of Hospital or Institution is only on the 'certificate of live birth' long form original. This is not indicated on the 'certification of live birth' obama says is his evidence he was born in Hawaii. Because obama has not provided valid proof of where he was actually 'born' it is just more evidence of deception. No hospital or address where obama was born but on the original colb. But as I have indicated above, ANY adult could have asked for a certificate of live birth from Hawaii and if only 1 offical determined it was valid documentation for a delayed colb it would have been issued indicating obama was born in Hawaii. So the CRITICAL information. if it exists, is in a "a special permanent file". THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT MUST BE REVEALED TO EXPOSE THE IMPOSTER OBAMA. Also if the a 'special permanent file' contains information on a rejection by Hawaii of the delayed colb documentation. A disagreement letter or file. This MUST BE REVEALED ALSO TO EXPOSE THE IMPOSTER OBAMA.
(18a)Certification of information, Parent or other informant. Only the 'certificate of live birth will reveal this signature. Who's signature is on obama's original colb? Maybe his own? It could be ANY adult. Anybody.
(19b) Certification of attendant, a doctor, midwife or "witch doctor". Again only the 'certificate of live birth' will reveal this signature also. Who "birthed" obama? This is the REAL "BIRTHER". Who is this 'birther'? Only the "birthers" know who attended obama's birth.
(20) Date ACCEPTED BY LOCAL REGISTRAR. The long form original 'certificate of live birth' indicates this information. What is his or her name?
(22) Date accepted by Reg. General. This is just another indication the original colb has been accepted. What is the date on obama's original colb?
The following is the real problem for the FRAUD obama.
(23) Evidence of delayed filing or alteration. This is the mother of all questions obama will not reveal. What does his original 'certificate of live birth' reveal?
Has his original colb been altered or filed on a delayed basis. WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE?
Obama's 'certification of live birth' does not indicate this information therfore the colb obama posted on the web CANNOT BE VERIFIED IN ANY WAY. It is an empty document to match his empty suit.
Obama is a FRAUD
Hawaii Long Form Original Example Certificate Of Live Birth. It CAN BE VERIFIED because it contains, doctor name, hospital, residence of father and mother, and the signatures of certification, Parent or Informant signature, Doctor or Attendant, and date accepted by Local Registrar. A Certificate Of Live Birth CAN BE VERIFIED. A "Certification Of Live Birth", CANNOT. Obama wants you to believe he was born in Hawaii with no verification. Obama has offered proof that CAN'T BE VERIFIED. Obama's "Certification Of Live Birth" redacted document was DOA and still is. Obama is an IMPOSTER and a FRAUD. I HAVE JUST PROVED IT!
Hawaii Obama Short Form redacted "birth certification" is not the same as a "certificate of live birth". It has 27 less birth questions displayed. Because of this obama's 'certification of live birth' CANNOT BE VERIFIED IN ANY WAY. No hospital name. No doctor name. No signatures of Parent or Informant Item (18a), Doctor or Attendant Item (19a), or Date accepted by Local Registrar Item (21). Obama wants you to believe he was born in Hawaii. Obama has offered proof that CAN'T BE VERIFIED. This document was DOA and still is.
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The problem with obama's 'certification of live birth' is NOTHING ABOUT IT CAN BE VERIFIED!
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(6C) Name of Hospital or Institution, If not in hospital or institution, give street address.
This is critical information that obama will not reveal. Why? Where was obama born? According to Hawaii law he could have been born out of the country and Hawaii would still have issued a birth certificate. So this is crucial information that would reveal if obama was born in Hawaii or not.
* In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fourth kind of birth certificate for children born outside of the Territory or State of Hawaii. HRS Chapter 338 was amended to add a new section authorizing the Director of the Department of Health to issue a birth certificate for a person NOT born in Hawaii either as a Territory or State, upon sufficient proof that the legal parents of such individual had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth of such child.
*( This means obama could have been born in Kenya or anywhere else)
**This also is possible scenario for obama. Obama could have requested a certificate of live birth HIMSELF years later. Any ADULT could have requested a colb also. It just says ADULT. It doesn't say relative. So Hillary Clinton or ANY adult could have requested and been issued a colb for obama if the Lieutenant Governor of Hawaii was satisfied.
**If a child born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person) if the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year. (See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).
***Any ADULT could, upon testimony, file a "Delayed Certificate", of which an endorsement, item (23) would be required on the LONG-FORM CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH which obama rufuses to produce. A summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the ACCCEPTANCE for delayed filing. This EVIDENCE must be kept in a SPECIAL PERMANENT FILE. Also a judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence must determine if the evidence is valid. Who if anyone reviewd obama's evidence? Who determined it was valid if he or someone filed for a 'delayed certificate'?
***In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or mid wife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, an adult could, upon testimony, file a “Delayed Certificate”, which required endorsement on the Delayed Certificate of a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing, which evidence must be kept in a special permanent file. The statute provided that the probative value of the Delayed Certificate must be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence. (See Section 57-18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).
****(6C) Name of Hospital or Institution is only on the 'certificate of live birth' long form original. This is not indicated on the 'certification of live birth' obama says is his evidence he was born in Hawaii. Because obama has not provided valid proof of where he was actually 'born' it is just more evidence of deception. No hospital or address where obama was born but on the original colb. But as I have indicated above, ANY adult could have asked for a certificate of live birth from Hawaii and if only 1 offical determined it was valid documentation for a delayed colb it would have been issued indicating obama was born in Hawaii. So the CRITICAL information. if it exists, is in a "a special permanent file". THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT MUST BE REVEALED TO EXPOSE THE IMPOSTER OBAMA. Also if the a 'special permanent file' contains information on a rejection by Hawaii of the delayed colb documentation. A disagreement letter or file. This MUST BE REVEALED ALSO TO EXPOSE THE IMPOSTER OBAMA.
*****(18a) Certification of information, Parent or other informant. Only the 'certificate of live birth will reveal this signature. Who's signature is on obama's original colb? Maybe his own? It could be ANY adult. Anybody.
******(19b) Certification of attendant, a doctor, midwife or "witch doctor". Again only the 'certificate of live birth' will reveal this signature also. Who "birthed" obama? This is the REAL "BIRTHER". Who is this 'birther'? Only the "birthers" know who attended obama's birth.
*******(20) Date ACCEPTED BY LOCAL REGISTRAR. The long form original 'certificate of live birth' indicates this information. What is his or her name?
********(22) Date accepted by Reg. General. This is just another indication the original colb has been accepted. What is the date on obama's original colb?
*********(23) Evidence of delayed filing or alteration. This is the mother of all questions obama will not reveal. What does his original 'certificate of live birth' reveal?
Has his original colb been altered or filed on a delayed basis. WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE?
Obama's 'certification of live birth' does not indicate this information therfore the colb obama posted on the web CANNOT BE VERIFIED IN ANY WAY. It is an empty document to match his empty suit.
*********(3,4) Does obama have a twin? This would indicate he has a brother or sister not yet revealed to the public. A possibility because the public has not seen obama's original long form colb. If he does is he/she still alive? Who is he/she? (This would only be a bombshell if obama's long form indicated this and obama assumed the 'others' identity.)
Otherwise it isn't important. :) (A little birther humor here.) Down the "rabbid hole on that idea".
Who is Eligible to Apply for an Amended Certificate of Birth?
As provided by law (HRS §§338-17.7, 338-20.5), the following persons may apply for an amended certificate of birth:
* A person born in the State of Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health and
1. has become legally adopted, or
2. has undergone a sex change operation, or
3. a legal determination of the nonexistence of a parent and child relationship for a person identified as a parent on the birth certificate on file has been made, or
4. previously recorded information in relation to the person’s surname and/or the father’s personal particulars has been altered pursuant to law.
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A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii.
This is a real possibility because obama's name was changed from soreto. He was known as barry soreto.
Only the long form certificate of live birth has this information.
This is why your argument about anyone who challenges obama as a US citizen is not logical.
The OVERWHELMING evidence is obama is a FRAUD who cannot produce any evidence that can be verified he did not alter or apply for an ammended Hawaiian certificate of live birth.
Your argument that obama has verfied his colb along with Hawaiian officals is overwhelming evidence of nothing.
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