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Thursday, September 10, 2009

Will We All Be Domestic Terrorists S1317




S. 1317 (Lautenberg): This bill would allow the Attorney General to deny the purchase of a firearm pursuant to an Instantcheck (or a permit which would allow a person to by-pass the Instantcheck) if he “suspect[s]” that the person has been engaged in conduct “related to terrorism” and the Attorney General has a “reasonable belief” that the firearm might be used in connection with terrorism. The Attorney General is specifically permitted to withhold any information concerning his “reasonable belief.” Take into consideration, in evaluating the application of this bill, that DHS in 2009 circulated an advisory attempting to link mainline Second Amendment and pro-life groups to “terrorism” -- and a number of recent newspaper commentaries have argued that groups like GOA and the NRA are, in some way, responsible for criminal acts recently committed in Pittsburgh and Wichita.

In other words the government can deny your purchase of a weapon for any reason and not explain why. This is a direct assault on the 2nd ammendment and US Constitution by obama.

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Will We All Be ‘Domestic Terrorists’?- S. 1317
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1776. Reborn.
Friday, August 21, 2009
Will We All Be ‘Domestic Terrorists’?- S. 1317

Got this blast from the, “Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms”:

Obama and the White House are looking the other way as Lautenberg seeks to ban guns from 1,000,000 US citizens on a secret FBI terrorist watch list. Obama has deliberately and repeatedly lied to America’s 90 million gun owners across the country when he insisted that he would not try to take away anyone’s firearms. Now Obama’s silence endorses Lautenberg’s latest attempt at banning guns.

Lautenberg has now introduced bill S. 1317 that would give the attorney general the discretion to block gun sales to people on terror watch lists. We must defeat this bill from giving extraordinary powers to limit gun sales to the Attorney General.

How you ask? Trial by innuendo and misinformation that has put 1,000,000 Americans and maybe even you on a terrorist watch list without your knowledge by saying: people placed on this government’s terrorist watch list can be stopped from getting on a plane or getting a visa, and will also be stopped from buying a gun.


S1317 Gun Grab Bill

S. 1317 would:

To increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists.

On a surface level, it sound’s reasonable. Denying weapons to terrorists. Most reasonable people would agree that sounds like a good idea. The problem is that the devil is in the details and S. 1317 is amending a section of the Patriot Act that defines “terrorism”.

S. 1317 amends a section 2331 of the Patriot Act which defines terrorism as the following:

International Terrorism- Involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State; appear to be intended-(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum.

Domestic Terrorism- involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; appear to be intended-(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.


Domestic terrorism then, as defined by the government, is intimidation or coercion to affect the conduct of large groups of people. By this definition obama is a terrorist!

The problem is that the government is not limiting it’s labeling of people as ’terrorists’ to just those who would, “affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping”.

There is legitimate concern that abuse of the ‘No-Fly’ list would greatly accelerate once public acceptance of the extremely secretive list becomes main steam.

As it stands today, protesters are terrorists. Constitutionalists are terrorists. Ron Paul supporters, anti-abortion activists, anti-New World Order and North American Union people are all ‘domestic terrorists’.

According to the government I am a terrorist because I have protested at several rallies against obama policies. I also am anti-abortion, anti-new world order and against the north american union crap.

The government considers anyone who protests against it a terrorist. This is NAZI type control. This bill is not about protecting Americans but enslaving Americans to the comming dictatorship of obama!

In fact, most mainstream opposition to the administration of President Barack Obama can find some aspect of their political beliefs labeled as ‘domestic terrorism’ according the DHS ‘Rightwing Extremism’ and MIAC ‘Modern Militia’ reports. There is no evidence that the government is actively putting the targets of the DHS and MIAC reports on the ‘No-Fly’ list. However, it is clear; President Barack Obama is using the full power of the Department of Homeland Security in an attempt to chill free speech.

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