Friday, January 21, 2011
Hawaii Gov Abercrombie Asks: Where's The Birth Certificate?
ATTORNEY GENERAL MARK BENNETT’S OFFICE SAYS THEY HAVE “NO GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO THE PREPARATION OF THE PUBLIC STATEMENTS MADE BY DR. FUKINO”
"Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence.
The Canada free Press article by By Doug Hagmann Tuesday, April 27, 2010 is explosive proof that obama is a FRAUD and IMPOSTER
The Governor of Hawaii claims record of obama's birth 'exists in archives' but can't produce the vital document.
Pressure was mounting on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie today amid increasing confusion over whether President Obama was born there.
Abercrombie said on Tuesday that an investigation had unearthed papers proving Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.
He told Honolulu's Star-Advertiser: 'It actually exists in the archives, written down,' he said.
But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate.
(What the daily mail is talking about is called an index record. A notation was made in an index record when obama requested a short form certification of live birth.
(d) Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.
This could have been entered when obama requested the online colb.
(See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.) In 1955 the "secretary of the Territory" was in charge of this procedure. In 1960 it was transferred to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor ("the lieutenant governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office" §338-41
If a child is born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]) if the Office of the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year.
If the Lt Governor believed obama, he was then issued a "certificate of live birth". So it is also possible obama himself had a "certificate of live birth" issued.
I would call this a super delayed "birth certificate". This "certificate of live birth" cannot be the same as the "certificate of live birth" issued by a hospital because it would not include any signatures or the doctor, parents or registrar. So what is issued? A "certification of live birth".
Keep in mind this flavor of "birth certificate" is generated out of thin air with NO original "certificate of live birth" to CORROBORATE the new "certification of live birth" generated out of thin air.
The testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]), OBAMA, the man child, is all that is needed. Statements from obama to a Lt governor. It doesn't indicate any documents need to be presented as valid proof only "testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]), OBAMA. This is a "birth certificate" created out of thin air!) Story Reports
5 ways to get a "birth certificate" from Hawaii
Many types of Hawaiian birth certificates and many ways to get one
And in the same interview Abercrombie suggested that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.
He said efforts were still being made to track down definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii.
(Abercrombie says proof "may not exist" of a hospital generated birth certificate. Abercrombie has also said obama was born in an Hawaiian hospital. He read a "letter" from obama duringthe Kapi'olani Medical Center's Centennial Dinner in Honolulu Jan. 24, 2009.
Did ya get that? In Jan 2009 abercrombie said obama was born at a hosptial in Hawaii. He said obama was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center. In Jan 2011 abercrombie says proof"may not exist" that a hospital generated birth certificate exists.
If a hospital generated birth certificate does Not exist why did abercrombie declare obama was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center when he quoted obama's letter about where he was born.
This is FRAUD. It is obvious gov abercrombie lied in Jan 2009 when he read a letter from obama.) Story Reports
Why in the h_ll isn't the news media pointing this glaring fact out???????????
At the hospital's Centennial Dinner Jan. 24, the same day the message in question is dated, U.S. Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii, read the letter's contents – straying at times from the actual text.
Abercrombie was asked: 'You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?'
He acknowledged the birth certificate issue would have 'political implications' for the next presidential election 'that we simply cannot have'.
'It's a matter of principle with me,' the 72-year-old said. 'I knew his mum and dad. I was here when he was born. Anybody who wants to ask a question honestly could have had their answer already.'
'You're not going to convince those people because they have a political agenda, or they have minds that go in that kind of direction,' he told CNN. 'Conspiratorial theorists are never going to be satisfied. This has gone into another area of political attack.'
And he again promised he would do 'what I can do' to publicly verify that records show Obama was born in Hawaii and is a citizen of the United States, making him eligible to be President.
(Abercrombie is a strange bird as is obama. It is hard to believe abercrombie could announce he would find proof obama was born in Hawaii and then deliver no evidence obama was born in Hawaii. Its the same thing as obama has done. Obama has provided no documented evidence that he is a US citizen yet he claims to be one.
Nothing from nothing leaves nothing and that is all abercrombie and obama have produced.
Is obama an uninterested bystander? He has not produced any evidence of his US citizship.
The government has put people in jail who has accessed some of obama's passport records or school records. One man who accessed obama's passport records was found shot to death and the public was told he was trying to sell the information he had.
Obama has spent millions to coverup his US citizenship.
Obama know if his online colb is ever probated in court he must prove his US citizenship.
This is why obama continues to coverup any evidence or documentation of his US citizenship.
Obama cannot prove he is a US citizen.
Because obama cannot prove he is a US citizen he knows he will be considered an illegal alien.
Obama is an illegal alien because he cannot and provide valid documentation of his US citizenship!) Story Reports
Obama has no hospital birth certificate
Governor of Hawaii Can't Find Barack Obama's Birth Certificate?
Governor of Hawaii Can't Find Barack Obama's Birth Certificate?
RUSH: I've been sitting on this story all week, purposely, just to see where it would go. And it has grown. This governor out in Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie, a well-known socialist, by the way, longtime member of Congress, now the governor of Hawaii, really stepped in it earlier, well, I think it was not even this week, it was last week. The governor, Neil Abercrombie, some time ago said, (paraphrasing) "Look, I was there when Obama was born in Hawaii. That birth certificate, it exists. Everybody knows it. I was there when that kid was born." Turns out he wasn't there, and he admitted he wasn't there. He was there in spirit. He was trying to say he's that certain. See, he thinks that Obama ought to just get this off the table. Abercrombie is worried that this birth certificate thing is going to be a lingering problem heading into 2012. So Abercrombie, big friend of Obama, tried to step in there and head this off at the pass. It turns out he can't find the birth certificate, the governor of Hawaii cannot find it. It's just a notation that somebody wrote down.
This has now made its way to the UK Daily Mail: "Hawaii Governor Claims Record of Obama's Birth 'Exists in Archives' but Can't Produce the Vital Document." That's the headline. The story originated at World Net Daily in this country earlier, and of course if it originates anywhere outside the mainstream press, the mainstream press will not acknowledge it. "Pressure was mounting on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie today amid increasing confusion over whether President Obama was born there." This is the UK Daily Mail. "Abercrombie said on Tuesday that an investigation had unearthed papers proving Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. He told Honolulu's Star-Advertiser: 'It actually exists in the archives, written down,' he said. But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate. And in the same interview Abercrombie suggested that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. He said efforts were still being made to track down definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii."
Remember, he started out, the whole reason for doing this was to firmly prove it and establish and get it off the table so it wasn't an election issue for 2012. And he's done the exact opposite now. I mean how many of us could get away with saying, "Yeah, there's a little notation somewhere there in the archives. We can't find the birth certificate. Oh, well, welcome to America, Mr. Limbaugh." Do you think if this was me and they were trying to prove that I wasn't an American and I insisted that I was, but I couldn't produce a birth certificate or wouldn't, and yet the governor of Missouri says, "Oh, yeah, there's a little notification, somebody wrote down Limbaugh was born here." Do you think that would fly? No, it wouldn't be, "Let him back in the country." It would be, "Get him out of the country. This guy's been an infiltrator since he was two," is what they would say about me, claiming that my original country of origin was China.
"Abercrombie was asked: 'You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?'" Kind of like how is that hope and change working for you? "He acknowledged the birth certificate issue would have 'political implications' for the next presidential election 'that we simply cannot have.'" Now, what does this tell us? Neil Abercrombie is no fool. When it comes to electoral politics, Abercrombie knows the ins and outs, and if Abercrombie senses a problem here -- look, the big mistake was to announce in public what you were gonna do before you knew you had what you told everybody what you were gonna produce. This is kind of like a lawyer granting somebody immunity without knowing what the heck they're going to say. So Abercrombie's kinda caught now.
"He acknowledged the birth certificate issue would have 'political implications' for the next presidential election 'that we simply cannot have.' 'It's a matter of principle with me,' the 72-year-old said. 'I knew his mum and dad. I was here when he was born. Anybody who wants to ask a question honestly could have had their answer already.'" But nobody has come forward to definitively prove it. In fact, most government officials have apparently done their best to seal it all off, whatever there is, they've sealed it all off. And they've tried to pooh-pooh any interest in it. And they have attempted to impugn those who have interest in it. It's merely a presidential constitutional requirement. It's really no big deal as far as the libs are concerned, but the Constitution's an impediment to them.
"Some believe his Certification of Live Birth is fake and he was really born in Kenya. Others argue that Obama is a citizen of the United Kingdom or Indonesia. Most theories have been dismissed by many in public office and the media, and have been found to be misleading or generally untrue." But I don't read here, it doesn't say most theories have been dismissed by public records officials. It just says dismissed by many in public office and in the media.
Well, big whoop. "However, the conspiracy theories still thrive, and according to Abercrombie, are likely to continue despite whatever evidence that shows him to be a proper U.S. citizen." Well, that's the thing. Abercrombie wanted to get this out of the way. I would think that if Abercrombie is gonna do this, he's not the Lone Ranger. He's gotta be calling the White House, "Okay, look, we have a potential problem here. I want to find this thing and I want to make it public." If that happened, somebody at the regime did not say, "No, don't do it," because Abercrombie is still alive. If they had said, "No, don't do it," and Abercrombie is still doing it, I don't even want to think of the consequences of that.
This is really not that hard. Look, if somebody wanted your birth certificate and you don't have it, what do you do? You go to the state where you were born, go to the vital records, you go down there and you make a copy of it, produce it, let it be seen. The original thought was, well, you know, Obama, he knows he was born here. This is just toying. He knows that the birthers are a bunch of Looney Tune kook right-wingers, and he wants them illustrated as such. So he'll toy with them, sort of like Charlie Brown and Lucy and the football. And the media went along with that, "Oh, that's Obama. He's really politically smart, really crafty here. He's got these birthers looking like the Birchers that they are. He's got 'em looking like the biggest kooks on the face of the earth," and it went on and on and on that way.
We have had several people of decent reputations file lawsuits in various states and they were thrown out. So the popular opinion has been, the consensus has been, "Yeah, he was born in Hawaii, isn't any big deal." They still can't prove it. This is stunning to me. Still can't prove it.
(Its more than just "stunning" Rush is a massive coverup of obama's records. Its treason. The enemy within has usurped the office of president. Stunning yes. Treason yes.) Story Reports
Now, it's still entirely possible all this is a giant head fake. For me, ladies and gentlemen, the sophisticated political figure that I am, it's really hard for me to believe that Neil Abercrombie just one day woke up on his own and without consultation said, "This birth thing bugs me. I'm gonna call a press conference, and I'm gonna tell people I was there when he was born, and I knew his mom and dad, and he was born here and I'm gonna prove it."
I said earlier, Abercrombie's no fool. Many Hawaiians would disagree with me on that, many have. But if this guy is acting on his own as I have just described, that's unbelievable. The alternative is he's not acting on his own, this is all part of a continuing head fake and that at some point after a lot of people have gotten revved up cause now, the UK Daily Mail Online is more mainstream than anywhere else in America this has. Okay, so it ratchets up and ratchets up and then a couple years down the road, year and a half down the road, guess what, the thing's found, and, oh, can you imagine the air that will be let out of people's sails then?
Now, you have to ask yourself, is this regime capable of that kind of trick? Yeah, they are. Are they capable of having the newly elected governor, a Democrat, replacing a Republican, Neil Abercrombie, start out this whole thing? Are they typical, capable of coming up with a program where Abercrombie embarrasses himself around the world on this and then all of a sudden after, what would it be, six and a half, seven years, voila, somebody finds the birth certificate right out in the open in some file in Hawaii. With this bunch the point is you just never know.
"The Governor vowed when he took office in December that he would do his best to end the debate over Obama's birth, which began in 2008 during the presidential campaign." What's wrong with that sentence? "The Governor vowed when he took office in December that he would do his best to end the debate over Obama's birth." Where's the president on this? Where's the president's vow to end the debate over his birth? We're going on four years now of this. It keeps intensifying. (interruption) Yeah, well, if that's true, would that not be great? If they found it in a garage sale next to one of those shaved ice stations?
Here's what's gonna happen. That's exactly right. They're going to find it in a garage sale in Kahala, and it will be stapled to two things. It would be stapled to a pocket Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. (laughing) Anyway, "Hawaii Governor Claims Record of Obama's Birth 'Exists in Archives' but Can't Produce the Vital Document." Where's Obama? Where's the White House? Is this guy flying alone? Neil Abercrombie on his own on this? So much of this is difficult to fathom, to believe.
I'll tell you why I think Abercrombie may just be toying around with everybody on this to pull a political trick later on down the line. Remember October 31st, 2008, there was a statement from the director of the Hawaii Department of Health. His name is Chiyome Fukino, and here is the statement. I mean, all Abercrombie would have to do is ask this guy because this guy in his statement says he's seen it. "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
DR. CHIYOME FUKINO statement about a record of obama's birth, (An index record)
Therefore, I, DR. CHIYOME FUKINO , as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." So right here in his statement in 2008, he said he's seen it. Yet Abercrombie can't find it. Now, what gives here? Abercrombie is a Democrat. He's from the Pelosi, Jim Wright school. This guy was a Democrat for a long time. This guy knows every trick in the book. This guy voted with the Soviets over the Contras in Nicaragua.
This guy is every bit as far left as anybody in the House is today and he's running around saying he can't find the birth certificate and he's the governor. Yet the Department of Health director issued a statement on Halloween (I'm sure that's a coincidence) of 2008. He's seen it. "I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures
"No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii." So the director of health for Hawaii says he personally saw it.
Now, out of the blue here comes the new governor, Abercrombie, saying he can't find it. Now (sigh), folks, I'm just warning you: Be very, very careful on this. Something here is just not right.
RUSH: John in Orlando, Florida, great to have you with us on the EIB Network, sir, hello.
CALLER: Hello, Rush, 24/7 dittos from soggy Orlando today.
RUSH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER: It's a pleasure to speak to you. The reason I was calling, I was listening to the program earlier, and I heard you say something about something doesn't smell right with this whole birth certificate business in Hawaii.
RUSH: Right, it doesn't, because the director of health out there says he's seen the birth certificate. The governor says he wants to release it but he can't find it. Now, something's not anywhere near right here.
CALLER: Well, I'm sure that Obama and the left would like nothing more than to get talk radio, you and Hannity and Beck and all the rest, talking about all this stuff going on in Hawaii, sounding like a bunch of birthers, and then come back and attempt to discredit you, as if they could, just before the election --
RUSH: Yeah, I know.
CALLER: -- and say you're just a bunch of nut bags out there complaining and whining and all the rest.
RUSH: Yeah, because I can't imagine Abercrombie being a free agent on this. Abercrombie gets inaugurated governor and out of the blue says, "Ah, you know what, I'm worried about this birther thing, they may have something there. I gotta find that birth certificate, and I'm gonna release it, I'm gonna prove it once and for all." Then he says, "I can't find it. Oh no, I'm in trouble. I'm really embarrassing myself here." And that's the hook and the bait, the unsuspecting and the beguiled are expected to chomp on that hook, line, and sinker and be reeled in.
I agree with you, there is untruth throughout this. If the Department of Health guy in Hawaii has seen it, and Abercrombie can't find it, and the White House is not commenting, yeah, I think, John, you're on to something.
(It all smells to me like BO!) Story Reports