Friday, April 23, 2010

Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely said, "I think many in the military – and many out of the military – question the natural-birth status of Barack Obama"


Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely said, "I think many in the military – and many out of the military – question the natural-birth status of Barack Obama. … I'm not convinced that he is [a natural-born citizen]."

(Maj Gen Valley is correct. Many millions question the natural born birth status of obama. Millions of US citizens are also not convinced obama is a natural born citizen. There is also a growing number of military people who are on the verge of also following in the footsteps of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin. The dam is about to bust and obama must produce evidence he is a natural born US citizen. I know obama is not a natural born citizen because he was born to one parent who was a Kenyan citizen when obama was born. Because of this obama was a dual citizen at birth and is not a natural born citizen. A natural born citizen is a US citizen who at birth had parents who were both US citizens. The US Constitution requires only the president to be a natural born citizen. Obama is a FRAUD and imposter.) Story Reports

Obama admits he was a dual citizen at birth

A retired Army general and national security policy expert says Lt. Col. Terry Lakin has "a valid point" and should use his "right to discovery" to force the Obama administration to produce proof of his natural-born citizenship status.

Vallely, CEO of Stand Up America U.S., graduated from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and was commissioned in the Army in 1961, serving 32 years.

He said he inspected his own long-form birth certificate, and it contains a doctor's name, date and location of birth.

"But he's never been able to produce that," he said of Obama. "His unwillingness to do it also concerns me. I think Lt. Col. Lakin has a valid point. … He refuses to produce a birth certificate that states the witnessing of the birth, the date and who is the doctor. We don't know why he won't come out with that."

the Army has filed two charges against Lakin, citing alleged violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice Articles 87 and 92.

Lakin publicly asked the president to document his eligibility and expressed a willingness to deploy with the 32nd Cavalry Regiment to Afghanistan, without response from the White House.

The filing of charges may, however, be part of the still-unrevealed strategy Lakin and his legal counselors are pursuing.

Asked whether Lakin will have a "right of discovery" during a court-martial – meaning Lakin's legal team could compel the administration to produce proof of eligibility during the course of the government's prosecution – Vallely replied, "Absolutely. Sure, he has a right to discovery. There's no doubt about that. Producing a birth certificate that has all the details on it, it seems to me, is very important."

Vallely added, "You can call witnesses. I would call the state government of Hawaii. I would require [proof of] which hospital he was born in. I'd want verification from the doctor or the nurse or whomever witnessed it that, in fact, it did happen in Hawaii. That has not been done to date. These are questions that have not been answered, and that's what concerns many people."

Vallely said America hasn't seen military officers stepping forward in droves to challenge Obama's eligibility because they know doing so might endanger their careers.

"The officer corps does not want to put itself in any kind of jeopardy because of their position and because of the fact that they don't want to go the political route," he said. "I don't think you're going to get your senior officers or senior political appointees to put themselves on the spot because they're probably afraid that they'll lose their position or promotion, so they'll take no position on it. But if somebody in the lower ranks stands up, they're going to take them on and court-martial them, or attempt to court-martial them. That's the situation."

Vallely expressed deep concern about what he believes is a national drift away from basic constitutional principles.

"That disturbs me more than anything, and that's why we've got to stand up, because we're getting in more trouble," he said. "It's like we're watching Washington burn as Nero watched Rome. What are we doing about it?"

He added, "Only the people can solve this problem. That's why the people must stand up and do what's right for America because we can't go this deviant route anymore. If not, we're lost as a country."

Besides Obama's actual birth documentation, the still-concealed documentation for him includes kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

The "certification of live birth" posted online and widely touted as "Obama's birth certificate" does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same "short-form" document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii. The true "long-form" birth certificate – which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny.

Oddly, though congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a "natural born citizen," no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth.

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Obama admits he was a british citizen at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

5 comments:

TellerIP said...

Dual nationality has no effect on Natural Born Citizen status. That is why the Chief Justice of the United States swore him in, and why Obama's election was confirmed by the US Congress UNANIMOUSLY.

Obama has proven that he was born in Hawaii with the official birth certificate of Hawaii. The Wall Street Journal said: "“Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.”

Since no controlling legal authority sought to validate Bush's birth or Clinton's or JFK's or any president's, that is why there was none for Obama either.

Story Reports said...

Dual nationality at birth is the determining factor.

The most overlooked words in that section are: "...or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution..." You must recall that most, if not all, of the framers of the Constitution were, at birth, born as British subjects.

Stop and think about that.

The chosen wording of the Framers here makes it clear that they had drawn a distinction between themselves - persons born subject to British jurisdiction - and "natural born citizens" who would not be born subject to British jurisdiction or any other jurisdiction other than the United States.

And so the Framers grandfathered themselves into the Constitution as being eligible to be President. But the grandfather clause only pertains to any person who was a Citizen... at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution. Obama was definitely not a Citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and so he is not grandfathered in.

And so, for Obama or anybody else to be eligible to be President, they must be a "natural born citizen" of the United States "at birth". It should be obvious that the Framers intended to deny the Presidency to anybody who was a British subject "at birth".

If this had not been their intention, then they would not have needed to include a grandfather clause which allowed the Framers themselves to be President.

Story Reports said...

Remember the Supreme Court of The US would not hear the case against obama.
This is because it is not the Supreme Court's role to remove obama from office after he is elected.

It is a disgrace the Supreme Court would not rule on whom a natural born citizen is.

Obama has said himself that a natural born citizen is one born of parents who are US citizens at the time of birth. The senate resolution S511 Apr 10, 2008.

"Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936:"

"American citizens"

Obama admitted Mccain was a natural born citizen because both of his parents were American citizens!

Obama admitted in his resolution that he would be a FRAUD if he was elected president because obama declares on his web site he was a citizen of Kenaya and America at birth!

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr110-511

TellerIP said...

You said: “Dual nationality at birth is the determining factor.”

You are wrong. To think that dual nationality has any effect on a Natural Born Citizen is to think that a foreign law can determine who is eligible to be president of the United States.

The words : "...or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution..." were inserted to allow people who were NOT Natural Born Citizens but only naturalized citizens to become president. The most prominent of them, who probably would have become president if it had not been for a duel, was Alexander Hamilton, who was born on the Caribbean island of Nevis.

You said; ‘ And so the Framers grandfathered themselves into the Constitution as being eligible to be President. ‘

With the exception of Hamilton and Wilson, both naturalized citizens of states, the writers of the Constitution considered themselves to be natural born citizens of the United States despite the fact that they were British before the Constitution.

There are several quotations from writers at the time showing that they considered that they automatically became citizens of the various states at the time of the Declaration of Independence, and since they were not naturalized citizens of the states, they were Natural Born citizens. St. John Tucker, for example, who wrote in 1803 writes that before naturalization laws there were only two kinds of residents of the states, Natural Born Citizens and aliens.

You said; “If this had not been their intention, then they would not have needed to include a grandfather clause which allowed the Framers themselves to be President.”

No, as show, the purpose of the grandfather clause was to allow people who were not Natural Born citizens but only naturalized citizens to become president. This included Hamilton, and some research indicates about 70,000 other men who had been naturalized.

TellerIP said...

Continued:

The important point is that the words “Natural Born” come from the British common law (not from Vattel, the Swiss monarchist), and in the common law they simply meant ‘born in the country with the exception of the children of foreign diplomats.’ Jay, who first wrote the words Natural Born Citizen, was a lawyer and judge, and he was referring to the common law.

You said; “Oama has said himself that a natural born citizen is one born of parents who are US citizens at the time of birth. The senate resolution S511 Apr 10, 2008.”

Answer, yes. Yes, but big deal. All that means is that Obama believes that there are two ways to be a Natural Born citizen. One way, his way, is to be born in the USA. The other way is to be born of two US parents outside of the USA. That fits with one of the common definitions of Natural Born Citizen:

“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition

Obama fits into the category of a person who was born in the jurisdiction. McCain fits under the category of persons born to two US citizens abroad (or in the Canal Zone, which may nor may not be ‘abroad’ but the two US citizen parents certainly applies). Notice you do not have to be both born in the USA and have two citizen parents. That is like requiring you to wear both suspenders and a belt. One will do. And there have been numerous federal law cases that hold that the US-born children of one or two foreign parents are Natural Born Citizens.

You said; “Obama admitted in his resolution that he would be a FRAUD if he was elected president because obama declares on his web site he was a citizen of Kenaya and America at birth!”

Obama admitted—stated would be a better word—that he was a dual national at birth. He did so, and the Chief Justice of the United States swore him in as president because dual nationality has no effect on Natural Born status. The US-born children of foreigners are Natural Born Citizens, and no foreign law can take that away.

Re the Supreme Court not being able to decide. You may be right. But the law is that dual nationality does not affect Natural Born Citizen status anyway. It is the same law for an impeachment or for a court. It does not affect. IF the case were to go to the Supreme Court, it would rule that Obama is a Natural Born Citizen because he was born in the USA (The official birth certificate of Hawaii is sufficient proof of that).