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Saturday, April 4, 2009

Three US Postal Receipts for Letters to US Attorney Taylor

Three US Postal Receipts for Letters to US Attorney Taylor?

Posted on April 3, 2009 by naturalborncitizen Atty Leo Donofrio

People are writing to me and claiming that US Attorney Taylor will never touch the eligibility issue to bring a quo warranto challenging Obama’s title to the office of President. Many are also saying that we the people have exhausted all legal options and that we must look outside the Constitution for justice.

I say there is no justice outside of the Constitution and that if you sink to that level of thought the true enemies of the Constitution will have defeated you and it forevermore.

But the people have not even come close to doing everything in their power to see that the Constitution is protected. The Constitutionally proper way to challenge POTUS eligibility is via the DC Code quo warranto statute.

I DO NOT SEE A CONCERTED EFFORT BY “WE THE PEOPLE” TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT US ATTORNEY TAYLOR BEGIN AN INQUIRY IN QUO WARRANTO AS TO OBAMA’S ELIGIBILITY.

If the option fails then you only have yourselves to blame if you haven’t organized a million letters and a million citizen march to the door of the US Attorney’s office.

I have not seen a response from US Attorney Taylor but that doesn’t mean he’s shut the door on bringing a quo warranto inquiry. I certainly I have not seen a negative response from US Attorney Taylor. He has said nothing publicy either way, so why is everybody giving up on the possibility that our Constitution may be working as we speak?

Did you think US Attorney Taylor would simply make a shotgun decision on something this important? Don’t you think a complete in depth study of quo warranto, the DC Code, and all possible case law would be necessary for the man to properly come to a decision? That takes some time.

Furthermore, how many of you actually wrote to the man? I told you that the prosecutor would need your protection - the protection of an intense public outcry - in order for him do something this controversial. Have you given the prosecutor your protection? Have you written to him?

Three people have written to me and mentioned they have received their green return receipt requested cards proving that their letters were accepted by the US Attorney’s Office. Three people. I’d be willing to bet that the total number of letters sent to US Attorney Taylor is less than 500 and probably much less than that.

I’ve written extensively on quo warranto and I’ve made the case that the statute is the only possible means by which the POTUS eligibility issue will ever be resolved. But the people don’t seem to really care enough to contact the US Attorney… so why should the US Attorney believe that this nation will support a decision to challenge Obama?

Based upon the lack of public outcry and the vehement language of hatred used by so many people who comment on the Obama eligibility issue, if I were the US Attorney I’d probably conclude that these advocates are simply partisan instigators concerned with their own political views and not concerned with an objective concern for the Constitution and the nation at large.

If you don’t have the numbers, you won’t get the result you’re looking for. It’s that simple. Those who are advocating methods and tactics which violate the Constitution have not done everything in their power to use the Constitutional and legal methods available. You are just as much an enemy of the Constitution as any other thug.

If every person who was troubled by Obama’s eligibility wrote a letter to US Attorney Taylor and got on the same page, perhaps there might be enough of a public outcry for the US Attorney to move on this issue. But the forces are split up and divided. Much of this has been intentional and many have been duped.

You flock to sensational muckrakers spewing emotional diatribes and irrelevant judicial maniacal madness… and you will get what you sow in the end.

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I invite anyone to utilize the letter below to US Attys Eric H. Holder Jr. and Jeffrey A. Taylor This is an example of a letter to send to the US Attorneys who can force Obama to produce proof of who he is! Send letters to Attorney Eric H. Holder and Jeffrey A. Taylor demanding action on quo warranto
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Subject: Quo Warranto: Is Obama eligible? Not since Slavery; an Issue so Volatile!
To: “Eric H. Holder Jr.” ASKDOJ@usdoj.gov,
“Jeffrey A. Taylor”

U.S. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.
United States Department of Justice
and
U.S. Attorney Jeffrey A. Taylor
United States Attorney’s Office

Dear U.S. Attorney General Holder:
and
U.S. Attorney Taylor:

Apart from whether there is a legal basis for questions re the eligibility of Barack Obama – other considerations beg for your timely intercession via the Quo Warranto statue. Over the past twelve months the U.S. Constitution has been bypassed, questioned, dismissed, mocked and violated from several perspectives. Consider:

1) Senator McCain is not a “natural born citizen” (nbc) because, as he admits, he was born either in Colon , Panama or on a U.S. military base nearby, and neither is American soil. Yet, in April 2008 the U.S. Senate unanimously approved a resolution declaring John McCain to be an nbc, but this holds no legal value whatsoever much less any Constitutional merit. All Senators knew this, proceeded anyway and insulted every American.

2) It is conceivable the Supreme Court could, someday, make a ruling that declares children born to U.S. military parents serving overseas will, henceforth, be viewed as if born on American soil. But this question (case) must be posed to the U.S. Supreme Court. The Quo Warranto process might well become the means to do so.

3) President Obama asserts he was born in Hawaii , but his only proof is the website posting of his certificate-of-live-birth. This may be correct, but a website is devoid of legal value, plus a COLB is not the primary document. Also, Mr. Obama admits his father never was a U.S. citizen. Mr. Obama’s place-of-birth is a simple fact, but never verified. His father’s non-citizen status requires judicial interpretation regarding its effect on a ruling re “natural born citizen.” Both are required to declare Obama eligible per the U.S. Constitution.

4) Granted, Hawaiian officials, on October 31, did state they had Obama’s birth documentation on file per applicable policies. However, they did not state he was born in Hawaii , and Hawaiian law in 1961 permitted a child born anywhere to be recorded in their state. The COLB cannot resolve these specifics, but the primary document (long-form of his birth certificate) can. Obama can easily authorize its release, but he has not.

5) Every President in American history was born to parents who were BOTH citizens. The one exception, Chester Arthur, as the VP candidate in 1880 (later made President) intentionally deceived America regarding his non-citizen father. Why have we now turned a blind-eye to the very same issue with Obama?

6) Members of the U.S. Military, active & retired, have questioned whether President Obama meets Constitutional requirements to be their Commander in Chief. These challenges have begun to threaten and erode the military chain-of-command. I cannot imagine a more precarious scenario for America ’s security, domestically and internationally.

7) A Florida Congressman has proposed legislation requiring presidential candidates, as of 2012, to submit their birth certificate as a prerequisite to initiating a campaign. A nice idea, but it does not address – on its own – the Constitutional requirements regarding “natural born citizen.” Furthermore, such a check cannot be legislated because nbc has not yet been defined by any court as it pertains to presidential qualifications.

8 - Some view Louisiana Gov. Jindal to be a potential presidential candidate, but is he a natural born citizen? How can he or his supporters ever know? How can any future candidate for the Presidency know? Jindal, similar to Obama, reflects the ever more multi-cultural mix of American politicians; hence another compelling reason to address this now.

9) Countless individuals have made enumerable postings in numerous online blogs. Their writings show that many people see absolutely no difference between the terms “citizen” and “natural born citizen” as used within the U.S. Constitution. Sad, but hardly surprising since a clear legal distinction seems to have been nebulous. However …

10) Recent legal research has built an impressive case that asserts “natural born citizen” means a person born on American soil to parents who were both U.S. Citizens at the time of their child’s birth. (Ref. http://www.naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com) Compelling though this may be; it holds little merit until adjudicated. History will view us poorly if we ignore these new findings. Quo Warranto is the only Constitutional means for an inquiry.

The foregoing has resulted in ever greater upset and confusion across this Great Land . I can only imagine the confusion it causes internationally. This confusion is not going away and will only get worse. This has gone beyond matters of “the law” and is being driven by passion causing grave concern for many Americans. We ignore this at our peril, for the Constitution is our foundation.

While emotional – it can be resolved legally; in fact it’s only possible to do so within our nation’s judicial framework. You two gentleman have been vested, by Congress, with the authority to initiate action via the Quo Warranto statute. Not since slavery has a matter this volatile come to the fore in America . It took a war to resolve that matter, and civil it was not! In the months leading up to our Civil War, leaders – so-called – on both sides arrogantly declared the looming conflict would spill no more blood than what a single handkerchief could absorb. Five years later nearly 600,000 Americans lay dead; in addition, this horrific 1860’s conflict still reverberates, to some degree, within our body-politic today – despite the passage of 150 years.

The matter of Obama’s eligibility places a huge burden upon each of you, but it is one America needs you to step-forward and assume – and both of you are needed to minimize the political rhetoric. I most respectfully implore you to do so. Thank you for considering my request.

Very sincerely and most respectfully yours,
NAME WITHHELD by the ORIGINATOR/SENDER (ADD YOUR NAME HERE)

Thursday, April 2, 2009

The Georgia Citizens Grand Jury Must Be Condemned

Georgia Citizens Grand Jury Must Be Condemned

The Georgia Citizens Grand Jury Must Be Condemned

Posted in Uncategorized on April 2, 2009 by naturalborncitizen

I have received letters from the people who ran the citizens grand jury in Georgia, and while I appreciate their frustration in that our Government has failed to protect the Constitution by allowing a President to be sworn in who is not a “natural born citizen”, I do not agree that this citizens grand jury has any legal authority whatsoever to demand the removal of a sitting President or to even force the review of his qualifications.

The separation of powers in the Constitution has delegated that power to Congress who in turn enacted the District of Columbia Code provision for Quo Warranto. Sections 16-3501, 16-3502, and 16-3503 are the only Constitutional means available to see the President removed or to even have him face an inquiry as to his eligibility. (See parts 1, 2 and 3 of my legal brief on quo warranto.)

Furthermore, there is very disturbing language (thanks to Phil at The Right Side of Life for highlighting this today) used by this citizens grand jury which discusses the taking of property and suggests other violent means by which they intend to enforce their presentments. This language is frightening and totally illegal:

“The grand jury may distrain and oppress the government in every way in their power, namely, by taking the homes, lands, possessions, and any way else they can until amends shall have been made according to the sole judgment of the grand jury.”

That’s criminal insanity right there. Have people lost their minds?

Let it be known that I condemn any such activity as described above.

You can’t protect the Constitution by destroying it. Just because somebody may have become President who isn’t eligible does not give any citizen the right to take the law into their own hands and to form lynch mobs and confiscate property. There is a Constitutional way to challenge the President, but this citizens grand jury manifesto is not it.

We the people are getting beat up by criminal political actions which subvert the Constitution. If we are to fight back, we must do so within the boundaries of the Constitution. This is because Constitutional criminals are more than happy to see citizens violating the Constitution. They can enforce your crimes with law enforcement. They can even put you on trial for issuing such language as that cited above.

But you can’t do the same to them.

You will be squashed like a bug. Therefore you need to be smarter and more Constitutionally creative than they are. Find the path within the Document or the USA is no more. A true enemy of the Constitution will claim victory if the only way you can stop their crimes is by doing more damage to the Constitution. Either way, the Constitution is destroyed. Try to see that for God’s sake.

Since the people who have brought this citizens grand jury have written to me and told me personally that my writing on the power of the citizens as grand jurors was their inspiration, I feel the need to disassociate myself from them and their objectives.

When I wrote of the subverted power of the Grand Jury as to bringing “presentments” in my articles;

- The Federal Grand Jury is the 4th Branch of Government

- Scotus on the unique power of grand jurors

…I was not doing so in regard to the POTUS eligibility issue. In fact, the first article above was written by me back in 2005 and published at my previous blog. This article had NOTHING to do with Obama’s eligibility.

We are governed by our Constitution, not common law.

My grand jury 5th amendment “power of presentment” articles were meant to educate people as to their power ONCE SWORN IN AS A FEDERAL GRAND JUROR in a federal court.

The articles weren’t meant to encourage citizens to form their own grand juries and prosecute at will. There is no such guarantee in the Constitution. And I am a true believer in the Constitution. Are you?

The Constitution provides in the 5th Amendment that a grand jury can return a “presentment” without the acquiescence of a Federal Prosecutor. I have encouraged people who are sworn in on Federal Grand Juries to use this power to investigate Government crimes even when the Prosecutor has not led them to such crimes. This is the power I was speaking of, and I first wrote about it in 2005 with regard to Constitutional crimes of the Bush administration.

Imagine 25 grand jurors who really know their power sitting in a DC court room… The Government can’t indict without a grand jury so they must have a grand jury empanelled at all times. If the citizens of this nation understood their true power, then once sworn in as grand jurors they could investigate ANY crime that was undertaken by Government.

THIS IS THE POWER I SPEAK OF.

Learn about it, spread it, use it or lose it. It’s a real power.

This citizens grand jury thing is not real. It’s a dog and pony show and a certain distraction from the true education and true power available which will surely confuse the issue and make it easier for the Government to further subvert the true power we the people hold as grand jurors.

When I first read about the Georgia citizens grand jury I thought, “Well, the relief they seek is not Constitutional and since they read my blog they must know that quo warranto is the only Constitutional way to remove the President…so this will simply be an educational PR stunt to foster discussion of the eligibility issue.”

But I can’t agree with that anymore.

The language they’ve published about taking people’s property and “other” enforcement options is complete and utter criminal bullshit.

Any activity which subverts the Constitution is criminal to me. I don’t care if it’s ineligible Presidential candidates or citizens who are frustrated thereby.

If this citizens grand jury is citing my writing as inspiration, then they’ve clearly misunderstood my writing.

Leo C. Donofrio

April 2, 2009

Wednesday, April 1, 2009

Beware the Cult of Obama




Beware the Cult of Obama

You’ve met them. They may be friends of yours, or family members. You may even be one of them. I’m referring to those who’ve heard the Call of Obama.

Tucker Carlson compares it to a dog whistle: Inaudible to most, but irresistible to those who can hear it.

Obama "walks into a room and you want to follow him somewhere, anywhere," George Clooney gushed to Charlie Rose.

"I’ll collect paper cups off the ground to make [Obama’s] pathway clear,” Halle Berry recently told the Philadelphia Daily News, “I’ll do whatever he says.” (Does Michelle know about this?)

Hollywood stars aren’t known for their political wisdom. More disturbing is how starstruck the mainstream media has become. Hardball host Chris Matthews isn’t the only one who gets a “thrill” up his leg at the very thought of our new president.

Last summer, San Francisco Chronicle columnist Mark Morford wrote that "Many spiritually advanced people I know … identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who … can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet."

The Politico recently ran a 900-word article entitled "The Power of Obama's Hand," reverentially describing how the president "uses touch to control and console simultaneously," laying hands on supporters and opponents alike.

And in February, author Judith Warner used her New York Times blog to confess that “The other night I dreamt of Barack Obama. He was taking a shower right when I needed to get into the bathroom to shave my legs.”

Instead of keeping that information to herself, Warner “launched an email inquiry,” which revealed that “many women—not too surprisingly—were dreaming about sex with the president.” Those of us who like to point out that the Emperor has no clothes now have to worry that when we do, we may give rise to a new round of lurid cougar fantasies.

Conservatives like to think they're above this sort of thing. Their attitude is summed up by the subtitle of Jerome Corsi's recent bestseller: Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.

But any conservative who thinks cultishness is exclusively a leftist phenomenon ought to take a good long look in the mirror. Because many of those who decry the "cult of Obama" are the same people who made a flight-suited action figure hero out of such common clay as George W. Bush.

Peggy Noonan called Bush's post-9/11 address to Congress "a God-touched moment and a God-touched speech." Fred Barnes wrote that "the stage was set for Bush to be God's agent of wrath." National Review Online ran ads for the Bush "Top Gun" action figure, and an article about how wonderful it was to have a presidential superhero to complement your GI Joe collection.

On Hardball, after the "Mission Accomplished" speech, G. Gordon Liddy got graphic enough to embarrass Judith Warner: "Here comes George Bush. You know, he's in his flight suit, he's striding across the deck, and he's wearing his parachute harness.... and it makes the best of his manly characteristic&hellip. He has just won every woman's vote in the United States of America!"

Presidential cultishness can be found all across the political spectrum. It’s a pathology that needs to be rooted out, because when we swoon over the man who holds the office, we risk making the presidency far more powerful than it was ever intended to be.

William Hazlitt, the 19th-century English essayist, argued that man was by nature "a worshipper of idols and a lover of kings." As savages, Hazlitt wrote, we fashioned “gods of wood and stone and brass,” but now, thinking ourselves above superstition, “we make kings of common men, and are proud of our own handiwork.”

But America’s very existence repudiates the idea that we’re hard-wired for leader-worship. We became a nation by throwing off a king, and our Founders gave us a Constitution that’s based on the notion that all men are flawed and none should be trusted with too much power.

Americans, of all people, should recognize how bizarre and dangerous it is to fawn over professional politicians.

Examiner columnist Gene Healy is a vice president at the Cato Institute and the author of The Cult of the Presidency.


With a "dog whistle," politicians use code words to signal unpopular stances to one target audience, while avoiding a backlash because the reference is lost on others.
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obama dog whistle calls idiots to adore him
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I agree with Gene Healy. It seems many people are like dogs who run to obama when he blows his whistle or teleprompter. Dogs are very forgiving and are very loyal to their master. They adore their "master" and are willing to do the "masters" bidding by showing their vulnerable side or underbelly each time their master appears. Dogs are like obama supporters who are willing to be loyal to their "master" no matter what their keeper does. Actually dogs have more sense than obama supporters. When they are abused they will react to the abuse. Obama abuse of supporters only results in more adoration and praise. This is the "cult of obama". A charismatic leader or telepromper with obsessive followers, with especially faddish devotion and veneration for a idiot who reads a teleprompter and studders. The mass media blows his cult "dog whistle" and people adore his simple phrases and stuttering as he utters bland soothing propaganda which is false or twisted.



Barry Sorento's Teleprompter

Monday, March 30, 2009

24 lines of code can flip an election


Rigged USA Elections Exposed
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Rigged USA Elections Exposed
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Florida's Whistleblowing Programmer Demonstrates for House Committee on Elections How Simple it is to Hack an Election

Committee weighs risks, benefits of electronic voting machines
Fla. 'vote-flipping' programmer voices doubts about tool

Clint Curtis touched a hidden button on the screen of a simulated electronic voting machine as onlookers witnessed votes switch from one candidate to another.

The House Committee on Elections invited Curtis, a computer programmer from Florida, to testify Wednesday on the accuracy, risks, benefits and security of electronic voting technology. The committee also heard from other expert witnesses, election officials and the Texas secretary of state.

Curtis said a Florida representative approached him in 2000 to design "vote-flipping" software to help the congressman win an election. Requesting a fraudulent program for a machine is not illegal in Florida, but using one is.

"You cannot trust electronic machines, no matter how many honest people you have. It only takes one person with access to the machine," said Curtis, an advocate for hand-counted paper ballots. "Programmers can be bought."

The committee watched as Curtis clicked on an invisible button that suddenly placed the losing candidate of his mock election safely in the lead.

"24 lines of code can flip an election," Curtis said.

He offered to write a new code from scratch in less than three minutes, emphasizing the ease of creating a "flipping" code.

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It takes only 24 lines of souce code, (binary code, hex lang) to steal and election. It takes only 1 programmer that has been bought. Clint Curtis programmer testified before the Texas legislature that elections officials "would never see it", elections officals could not detect rigged voting. Only a programmer could detect the hack in the source code. With out counting hard paper you could not detect the rigged vote! Anyone could fix an election.Anyone with the knowledge to change 24 lines of code could also rig a national election. Curtis testified the ohio presidential election was hacked! (I believe the election of obama was hacked also and this led to his 4% lead.) Obama is a double FRAUD!

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Any group of Americans opposed to Barack Hussein Obama could be considered a "conspiracy"

QUICK SUMMARY: The Clint Curtis / Tom Feeney / Yang Enterprises, Inc. Vote-Rigging Scandal

Sunday, March 29, 2009

A $10 trillion Ponzi scheme

Free Strong America

Freedom Works

Bernie Madoff is getting comfortable in a jail cell, where he'll spend the rest of his life. His crime? A $50 billion Ponzi scheme, which wreaked havoc in the finances of hundreds of people and cost some aged and formerly wealthy clients their entire life savings.

How could this have happened? How could knowledgeable and well-connected people like Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg and heads of corporations and investment firms be swindled so massively, for so long?

And what is a "Ponzi scheme" anyway? Drawing its name from an Italian money manipulator in 1920, it's a kind of pyramid scheme in which many invest money on promises of big returns, and as new investors come aboard, their money (or part of it) goes into "profits" for earlier investors. As the first investors brag about their profits, and the manipulator documents these to show more investors, the scheme takes on the aura of a very safe and profitable enterprise. Even if the core business is spurious and couldn't succeed on its own, everybody is deliriously happy while the gains are coming in.

The manipulator, like Madoff or the original Charles Ponzi, is seen as a wizard and entitled to the lavish lifestyle he has earned … with the investors' money. The whole house of cards implodes when the overall economy slows down and too many investors start wanting to take their money out all at once.

Statism's illogic exposed for all to see in F.A. Hayek's "The Fatal Conceit: The Errors of Socialism"

So, Madoff is bundled off to jail. And our whole nation is embarked on a similar scheme – one that makes Madoff and Ponzi look like penny-ante street hustlers.

Yes, America woke up to find its banks and mortgage and insurance companies – in cahoots with certain elements in Congress, supposedly helping modest-income families buy homes with very doubtful or nonexistent credit – were experiencing a gigantic run on their reserves and facing possible insolvency. Bad problem. So two overlapping administrations, again with a dazed and stampeded Congress, came up with a solution.

"Hey," they said, "American taxpayers have lots of money, and even more credit. Let's use that to fix this problem! Let's come up with 'bailouts' and 'stimulus packages,' shovel them out the door with few if any instructions to the troubled institutions, and sign the taxpayers' names to their credit card! We'll say this is the only way to save our economy, they'll buy into it (they don't understand finance anyway), and we'll look like the good guys. And while they're swallowing a trillion and a half debt, we'll ram through an $800 billion 'appropriation bill' with 9,000 earmarks and pork projects, like we always do, and we'll do a massive snow job, telling them we're building a bright new future and saving the planet. Sure, it'll be tough on all those taxpayers, but they'll work their butts off and come up with the money somehow, in time, and maybe it'll all turn out all right."

That's what they did, but then they realized there literally would not be enough money from anywhere to do all this. So Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Fed, said on "60 Minutes," in effect: "We'll have to just print up trillions of dollars of paper money – we're actually doing it down the street at the mint – and hope other countries will lend us trillions of their money to make good on all these programs and promises."

And Rahm Emanuel, President Obama's chief of staff, was actually quoted saying, "Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you couldn't do before." So, in service to long-sought agenda items like "green" energy, gigantic health care programs, Planned Parenthood worldwide, rebuilding the structure of roads and bridges and creating "millions" of new jobs, he and the president have announced a $10 trillion dollar agenda for his first term, and into the next!

And what's to stop this insanity, with a Democrat-controlled House and Senate, and even many Republicans stampeded into compliance?

ONLY AN AROUSED AND ACTIVE CITIZENRY CAN STOP IT!

As we were when President Bush and Congress almost unanimously approved a lopsided, ruinous immigration bill – and an aroused citizenry bombarded all our representatives in outrage – we are our own last and only hope!

Many, including me, have already called for a "new Boston Tea Party," and will be sending an avalanche of tea bags to President Obama, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington, D.C., starting April 1 and continuing till changes occur. The first two weeks of April, right upon us, should find millions of tea bags cascading out of mailbags near the Oval office.

This is a symbolic but powerful indication to the president that we citizens are not the hapless, ignorant peons he thinks we are, and that we're not going to take on these trillions in debt willingly!

Either with the tea bags, or separately – or both – we need to write, write, write, every representative and senator and the president himself, letting all of them know we can read and count. We're aware the Chinese are already questioning our currency and the European Union heads are calling our trillion-dollar schemes "the way to hell." Even leftist socialists recognize our folly!

And every one of us needs to log on to FreedomWorks.org and see what Vice Chairman Steve Forbes and a grass-roots army of hundreds of thousands, with volunteers in every state, are doing to rouse overwhelming public resistance to this gigantic Ponzi scheme. If Forbes had been elected president several years ago, we would not be in this horrendous mess.

And then go to FreeStrongAmerica.com powerful and growing PAC created and run by Mitt Romney. Though in its virtual infancy, this PAC has contributed over $425,000 in more than 150 state and federal campaigns aimed at real change – changing the makeup of a hapless and socialist-leaning Congress.

Fellow citizens, we still have substantial leaders like Forbes and Romney and Gingrich, who collectively know more about our economy and how to truly right it than the pointy heads huddled in the White House, planning to take this country into a "New World Order," with a common world currency and governance, with Big Brother government controlling – and owning – our lives.

I, for one, am not willing to be a part of this $10,000,000,000,000 Ponzi scheme. Are you?

Pat Boone